Evolution or No Evolution – is that even a question…

A while ago I stumbled upon a video which claimed to prove that evolution is real, or at least very likely. I decided to watch it, because though I do believe evolution is real, I don’t know any prove for it. Which might be good since I’m a firm believer. The video is not very long and explains it very well. You don’t have to be a science major to understand it. Clearly, since I am not one of those either. It’s interesting to watch.

 

As always I did what you should not do on Youtube: I scrolled down to read the comments. I picked out two completely different ones to show the contrast:
Evolution is a silly science fiction fairy-tale told by atheists in a sorry attempt to replace the true eternal word of GOD. All of the alleged so called evidence is imagined and can never be demonstrated or proven by visual assessment. They use their uncontrolled imaginations and delusions as their source of evidence.
If there IS a god of some kind then he obviously HATES humans, animals and the earth itself. Killing and suffering are non-stop on this planet, and have been for hundreds of millions of years. What kind of a cackling sadistic shithead would create such a world?
Obviously the first one comes from a creationist, the second one from an atheist. Now let’s take a closer look at both of them. The first person claims that evolution is the effect of imagination. He says it is ‘so called evidence’. Which I find pretty ironic seeing that the video does give a very good explanation as to why evolution is the most likely option. He also claims that this is all but an excuse to replace the true word of God. The scientist in the video states he believes in God as well. To me it doesn’t seem to be a thing of proving that God doesn’t exist. It’s about proving evolution is real.
The second comment is the opposite. I do agree for a part. If people really believe that God exists and created us the way we are today, then why did he make us such cruel creatures? He wants us to be good and forgiving, but if he’s so almighty then why did he give us evil? Isn’t it highly unlikely that someoneย  who created everything the way it is now would be happy with the result?
I also started looking around on Google to know more. And that is the moment where I got here. Someone asked if evolution is real. Someone answered in what seems a very logical and clear way. I think this part of one of the answers is something very interesting to keep in mind while talking about this topic:
A scientific theory is quite different from a fact. A theory doesn’t say THAT something happens (so the creationists are wrong here too), but attempts to explain HOW something happens. For example, the theory of gravity doesn’t say THAT gravity happens (we can see that much without any theory), but attempts to explain HOW gravity happens. Why do all massive objects exert a gravitational pull on each other? That’s what the theory of gravity seeks to answer.
The person saying this does believe evolution is real. Then there were other comments, like this one:
No, evolution is completely false. Although it doesn’t seam like it, but there really is not a single piece of evidence to support it. Scientists (BTW, creationists can be scientist too and some of the world’s greatest inventions were created by creationists (its all there, just search it)) who believe in evolution, when they see certain things, tend to just make the wrong types of assumption.
The typo there is not mine but his. Just sayin’.
Also this comment:
Absolutely not. Do you really believe we evolved from monkey’s or gorillas? (…) Is evolution logic? lets be honest. It is more logical for there to be a God than it is for us to form from a bunch of mollocules, or rain, or rock. and so on and so forth. (..) Not everything is meant for us to understand, but I know that God is real.
This was followed by the encouraging to read the Bible.
Of course.
But you see, this is the thing I hate. This girl from the comment above doesn’t seem to know what scientist say that evolution is. They don’t say we have evolved from monkeys, but we have a common ancestor. Seeing the physical similarities doesn’t make that so surreal. Plus: apparently 98% of our DNA is similar to that of a certain kind of gorilla. Plus: in the video above the guy clearly explains why it is so likely that we would share a common ancestor with the monkeys. That is one point that above all shows that this girl is not the one who should be commenting here.
Is evolution logic? Let’s be honest. It totally is when looking at the scientific facts, that as far as I know never claim that we have something in common with rain. Thank you very much.
Not everything is meant for us to understand – but creationist always need prove that is complete and cannot be ‘unproved’. They tend to say there is no proof for evolution.
On the other hand, what is their proof for the existence of God? Let me cite something I once read.
‘Everything that starts to exist has a reason. The universe started to exist. Therefore it has a reason. God exists’.
For people who throw away so much evidence because of little details that aren’t explicitly explained, I find this a sad way of reasoning. And that, people, is why I hate creationism. They close their eyes and just want to hear what they think is true. They don’t want to listen to anything else. They don’t to think about it. Why do they refuse to consider the fact that they might be wrong? I too have to admit that I’m not always right. But that’s okay as long as you are open to other opinions.
Also, they believe everything stated in the Bible is true. They believe a book. A book. With stories that you can never witness alive. How can they not see that that is a weird thing to do? I too could write a book. Why wouldn’t that one be true? And what evidence do they have for it to be true?
‘Because it is the Bible’ doesn’t count as evidence.
I do think it is possible to believe in God and evolution. It is possible that there is a God, but he’s clearly not almighty. Even if you believe he has created the world, then evolution might still be real. Maybe God finds it exciting to see how things evolve.
But above all you shouldn’t throw away clear indications just because you want to believe a book.
Via 9gag

Via 9gag

Also, creationists trying to defend themselves make a lot of typos. Man, even I am better at English and I’m not even a native speaker.
By the way, WordPress won’t allow any white space today. I’m sorry for the long, long text in just one part. That was not my intention at all.
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24 Comments

  1. i really believe in evolution…..

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  2. It’s not really worth engaging with Creationists, they’re just loons.

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  3. It’s a hard thing to argue with faith. It’s like arguing with a child who answers every quetion with “because”.

    And if there is a god, I doubt anyone on earth can fathom whatever (s)he does.

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    • Yes, it is exactly as you say. You cannot discuss things with people who have nothing to build their opinion on.

      Probably. If we could understand him, we could have avoided so much misery…

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  4. I love this topic, can’t get enough of it. I believe in evolution but I also believe that some people need something else to believe in. (Lots of believing going on here) It’s such a shame that some people are being plain ignorant instead of tolerant. Believe what you want to believe but let each other be.. The creationists should at least believe in that message, right?

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    • I guess so! But as you, there’s so much plain ignorance… I wonder though why some people need to believe in something else than evolution. What is so threatening about it? How would admitting that it is very likely harm you? I don’t see the point in that.
      Next to that I dislike blind faith in something. How can you grow as a human when you don’t want to listen to anything else?

      I do realize that this is a very rich girl of western Europe opinion ๐Ÿ˜‰

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      • Haha no I absolutely agree with you, only I am always very careful in expressing my opinion about this because my father’s half of the family is very, very religious. I hate it, to be honest. I don’t see how people can just follow others like the lambs of God jesus claims them to be. Not thinking about things and not wanting to know that there are things other than that they have always been taught, in a way it is kind of sad..

      • I’m glad that you are not like that! They are missing out on a lot anyway ๐Ÿ˜‰

      • Heck yeah. Not to mention sex before marriage.

      • Oh dear! *faints*
        THE SIN

        ๐Ÿ˜‰

      • Hahahaha!

  5. NotAPunkRocker

     /  June 9, 2014

    I will always choose the side of science over faith any day.

    Faith is such a personal thing, and the only way to find out the “truth” is to die. No thank you. So I remain respectful to my friends who believe and vice versa.

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  6. I am not religious so do not believe in god or creationist theories. And I am guessing that all people of faith would have creationist beliefs, otherwise surely they cannot have that religious faith?

    When people thought the Earth was flat etc and didn’t know where the sun came from I can understand why people believed in a god, but these days, I really don’t understand. Perhaps it helps them get through a time of grief or something like that, I cannot get my head around it.

    I though George Carlin got it right in his Religion is Bulls**t sketch.

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    • Like you I have a hard time understanding how you can believe that there is some kind of guy who will arrange life for you, according to a most weird plan.

      But I do think that it is possible to believe in evolution and God. I guess the reasoning then is different: there is one, but he takes care of you after your death. He cannot change what is going on in life. I do think there is a way in between.

      But then again, I’m not a believer so I cannot be sure…

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      • Maybe with evolution you can still believe but i find it massively wierd that you can be a scientist and believe in god, that doesnt seem possible to me. but it is what it is lol.

      • That’s puzzling indeed… Unless you really need some kind of reason for the big bang I guess ๐Ÿ˜‰

      • lol, well you never know. ๐Ÿ˜›

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